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Teletext still alive !

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:32 pm
by Clive
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Just reading about how the BBC is planning to re-instate it's red button service and thought I should check ! Here in Sweden the national broadcaster is still providing Teletext service.

I would love to imagine that SVT has a room of ICL mainframes providing this service, but I suspect it is more like a Raspberry PI under someones desk.

But it's interesting that 1974 technology is still alive and well in 2020 !

Do we know of other places still using Teletext ? Even in the digital world ?

Re: Teletext still alive !

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:29 am
by John McE
Although I'm delighted that they have reversed their decision to axe it, I just wish they would employ people who could properly check what is output. The number of stories that are simply a chopped out bit of a larger story, and thus make no sense on their own, the number of "see photo's" that appear in a text only service, the number of items that simply cut off mid sentence, and the number of spelling mistakes are all ridiculous.

There is currently a story in the tennis section that has been up as the lead story for 6 or more weeks, even though in the interim we've had both the American and French Grand Slams. And in both the tennis and the golf sections, they still have a section of world rankings that claims to have been updated that day, but which in fact hasn't been updated in months and months.

What is the point have having several different news sections - UK, World, Science, Technology etc, when stories are repeated numerous times across many different (and frequently irrelevant) sections. These days in reading the various sections I am interested in, it is quite normal to have read the exact same news item multiple times. Either eliminate the different section headings, or else stop repeating stories across them.

I presume people are paid to keep the teletext service going and updated, so why are they allowed to get away with such slapdash work?

Re: Teletext still alive !

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:44 pm
by fatcat
Sometimes you could pick up broken and fragmented pages from the day you recorded your VHS tape.

Don't know if this was improved by using SVHS or the equiv 'super' Betamax system?

Re: Teletext still alive !

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:31 pm
by Nick Cooper 625
fatcat wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:44 pm
Sometimes you could pick up broken and fragmented pages from the day you recorded your VHS tape.

Don't know if this was improved by using SVHS or the equiv 'super' Betamax system?
Yes, if recorded from an analogue terrestrial signal, any programme will include all the underlying Teletext data. Unfortunately, teh same obviously wasn't this case if you switched over to recording from a digital signal.

Re: Teletext still alive !

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:57 pm
by swills
Well, the Red Button 'text' service goes again soon,......time to bring back CEEFAX ! (and ORACLE) if it works fine on digital tv in Europe, and quite quick too....it can work here !

Re: Teletext still alive !

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:06 am
by Brian F
I have a feeling I read that the digital TV system used here, though it could have supported it, unfortunately due to the way it has been implemented it now can't.

Re: Teletext still alive !

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:31 am
by brigham
John McE wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:29 am


There is currently a story in the tennis section that has been up as the lead story for 6 or more weeks, even though in the interim we've had both the American and French Grand Slams...
You can NAAT be serious!!

Re: Teletext still alive !

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:33 am
by brigham
swills wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:57 pm
Well, the Red Button 'text' service goes again soon,......time to bring back CEEFAX ! (and ORACLE) if it works fine on digital tv in Europe, and quite quick too....it can work here !
The infrastructure on Newcastle's High Level Bridge can still support horse-buses, but this is hardly a reason for bringing them back!

Re: Teletext still alive !

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:21 am
by John McE
The same story on the tennis section has now been up for more than EIGHT weeks, despite making a complaint to the BBC about it two weeks ago :-)