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In TV land, characters rarely seem to watch TV, but when they do, it's interesting to see what they watch.

In the very first episode of "The Saint" ("The Talented Husband") a woman in bed watches an episode of ATV's "The Larkins", you don't see the picture, but you can hear it.

"On The Buses" ("The Inspector's Niece"), the Butler family settle down to watch "Manhunt", the programme that follows "On The Buses".!....again you don't see it, but hear the theme.

"The Avengers" ( "Never, Never Say Die") Mrs Peel is watching "The Avengers", "The Cybernauts"...good choice.!

An episode of the 70's revival of "Whacko!", had the boys watching a scene from "Doctor Who", "The Mind Of Evil", I remember the series, but not that scene, the PasB's should give a clue as to which episode featured the clip, however.

"Heartbeat", a character is seen watching an edition of "Sez Les" ( the titles are seen).

Many an episode of "The Grimleys", featured one of the leads watching a variety of classic shows, including "Indoor League".

In "Keeping Up Appearances", however, when Onslo was watching TV he seemed to favour generic shows and films with no dialogue.

There was specially shot footage of a soap, for an episode of "Open All Hours", as viewed by Gladys.

Any others.?...( probably lots).
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In the On the Buses episode "The New Telly", the TV sets are apparently tuned perpetually to a channel that shows only Public Information Films. Lucky buggers. In the George and Mildred episode "The Last Straw", they visit friends whose TV is showing the 1961 Tony Hancock film "The Rebel". Always wondered whether that was a bit of an homage.
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In the opening episode of Fraud Squad, "Turbot on Ice", a woman is at home watching the wrestling on television. You can hear Kent Walton commentating and one of the wrestlers is clearly Jackie Pallo. Couldn't make out who the other one was.

Perhaps most famously, in Doctor Who's "The Sea Devils" The Master watches an episode of "Clangers".
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In an episode of The Green Hornet here in the US you have a couple of the crooks watching Batman.

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This isn't exactly tv but in the film Airplane II, Shatner plays the commander of a moonbase and, while looking thru an observation periscope, he sees The Enterprise fly by.

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Good ones, there Rory, agree about the idea of a PIF channel, would be great.!

You may well be right about the Hancock homage, good point.

There was also the episode of "George and Mildred", when the telly was away being repaired, and George was very sadly, thinking of the shows he was missing, such as "Upstairs Downstairs", and the fourmiles were always calling ITV rubbish.!

How did I miss "The Sea Devils", one, good call, Simon.

Didn't know about "The Green Hornet" one, Videoking, not seen that series for decades.
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Isn't there some footage from The Prisoner episode "Living in Harmony" on a TV screen in the Jason King episode "Wanna Buy a Television Series?"? Though I don't think it's meant to be from The Prisoner just some generic western.
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Thanks to Ian Beard,I know that the 5th episode of Jimmy Clithero's 'That's My Boy' has the family tuning in to the opening credits of...'That's My Boy'.

Famously,Ace just missed the opening credits of the first episode of Doctor Who-on a November 1963 evening of broad daylight!

It always seemed to me that the cast of Father Dear Father and George and Mildred were as likely to mention BBC shows as ITV ones.Loved father (Patrick Cargill) being called 'Marker' by his family,when he tries a bit of detective work.

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Interesting variation with the "Jason King" one, Simon, I'll have to check that one out.

Like the "That's My Boy" one, JWG, very surreal, just imagine if the Butlers did that, settling down to watch "Manhunt", but catching the end of "On The Buses", could be confusing.

Also interesting to note, that more often than not, the Radio Times would be read in BBC shows, and TV Times in ITV ones, perhaps, not surprisingly.
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I seem to remember that Mr.Fourmile,in 'George and Mildred' wasn't sure that his TV received ITV...

We know that the trio in Man About the House could get both BBC and ITV (and BBC2?) because Robin manipulates the remote-which has a five-foot lead attached to the telly.Always reminds me of the 'Mad' magazine flying belt with its 2-foot lead attached to a wall-socket.

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Yes Geoffrey Fourmile, was certainly very snobbish about ITV, ( as were many people, of course), and I had forgotten about the "MATH", one with a cabled remote.!

The classic "Steptoe" lines over the partitioned TV, "I have the law of contract on my side", "I have the knobs on mine", always a good one.

Films were often watched of course, a Dracula Film in "Some Mother's Do Ave' Em", and, what looks like a war film on the TV that Fletcher has balanced on his head, in the "Porridge" episode, "Final Stretch".
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It's because of the film that cuts were made to that episode of 'Some Mothers'.(There were cuts on the DVDs ,of course).
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Oh yes, I have those DVD's as well, annoying, when that happens.
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I can only think of examples where we see protagonists watching real programmes (or "real" programmes) as deliberate, sign-posted devices in order to move the plot forward, e.g. Jim Hacker switching on his set moments before Robert Dougall or Moira Stuart deliver the BBC News item of interest, then switching it off precisely as it finishes; Alan Partridge unconvinced by Manju Mahli's best efforts at selling The Learning Zone - all that's on offer now his specialist channels are de-activated; Ted & Dougal settling down to watch "Father Ben" and One Foot in the Grave... Erm.. better examples... The Royle Family must be full of them... Erm...

Sorry. Perhaps I'd be better off starting a new thread along the lines of "Non-existent TV shows referenced in existing ones that would be fun to watch (if they existed)"...

I shall do that now.

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In one episode of George and Mildred there is talk of watching Dr Who which, if I remember rightly, all the males turn out to be hooked on. I remember this being mentioned on a thread a long time ago.

Also I can't remember which sitcom it was (possibly Cowboys) that had a scene of I think Roy Kinnear watching Dr Who. It must have been 1980/81 as I remember them using the Peter Howell version of the music which had only just started to be heard on the series.

I remember an episode of Grange HIll beginning with a load of kids watching the first Sweeney film. Jack Regan watches the Thames bumper and the opening credits of This Week in an episode of The Sweeney, rather surreal moment. George is revealed to have watched Hawaii Five O in another episode.

In "Rumpole and the Barrow Boy" Hilda watches The City Programme, hosted by Joan Bakewell, not that she ever hosted it in reality.

Lewis mentions his wife watches EastEnders twice in Inspector Morse.

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I've posted this before. In an episode of Coronation Street Stan Ogden switches off the TV when the theme music to Word In Action come on. (Presumably he'd been enjoying the previous programme).

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If a BBC early to mid-70s drama needs to have a character turning off a television, then it's always seems to be the Z CARS theme that is curtailed, (THE BROTHERS) - though a recently released ANGELS second series episode has a cod-announcement and the opening seconds of the DOCTOR WHO theme before the plug was pulled. Presumably to underline the fact it was the WEEKEND, (though it was the Hartnell theme that played, not the contemporary version).

Doesn't say much about BBC output that people are turning things off before actually seeing anything of them.

The first episode of JASON KING features banks of monitors, mostly showing silent footage from an unidentified episode of EMERGENCY - WARD 10.

An episode of THE SAINT has Templar at the theatre, where you can hear (but not see) Frankie Howerd's Bottom.

BROOKSIDE famously only ever had some puppet show featuring rabbits whenever the box was on, though that was specially shot stuff to avoid extra payments.

MISS MARPLE: SLEEPING MURDER has a scene where an episode of THE ARCHERS begins, and the broadcast versions of A FAMILY AT WAR had various historical broadcasts paying out, (though these were mostly removed for the dvd release). Did DAD'S ARMY feature snippets from any of the radio comedy shows that Pike refered to?

Loads of fake news channels - wasn't SPOOKS asked to stop using Sky News and replace it with BBC News at one point? And CASUALTY appears to have the most successful of Jeremy Hunt's local channels with Wyvern News, or whatever it's called.

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There's a bewilderingly metatextual episode of The Gentle Touch in which Maggie Forbes has to protect a haughty star actress, who plays a Detective Inspector in a popular Police series. There's a bizarre scene of Forbes and her son watching the Police programme at home - which has the soundtrack of a recent episode of The Gentle Touch! The son adds comments like "The direction is terrible!" as they watch. There always seemed to be something exclusively strange and chaotic about drama made by LWT in comaprison with the other ITV companies.

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Of course there's also Play School in Potter's Angels are So Few...

Brookside didn't only use the puppet show, there are references to a soap the characters watch, can't think what it was but I seem to think it was a local soap which was shown in an educational slot or something?

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The sherry advert in To the Manor Born,which used the theme from To the Manor Born.

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Only Fools and Horses featured an episode of Top of the Pops with Mike Read. But it was a specially recorded scene rather than an existing episode on in the background.

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SgtPepper wrote:Only Fools and Horses featured an episode of Top of the Pops with Mike Read. But it was a specially recorded scene rather than an existing episode on in the background.
The episode with the inflatable dolls includes the opening of a specially recorded edition of London Plus (although I don't think the newsreader featured was an actual LP presenter, wasn't there a rule about using real newsreaders in fictional contexts?)

Also with OFAH there's the scene where one of his phones changes the channel on the TV in the Nags Head, switching the horse racing to Rainbow, the Channel 4 ident and a nature programme

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In Just Good Friends Les and Rita are seen watching Postman Pat with Portuguese dubbing.

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In Brookside the only tv show they EVER watched was this glove puppet thing with plinky plonky electronic music.

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In Game On Matthew and Martin were hooked on both Emmerdale and trashy American teen soap Sunset Beach, which actually pre-dates the real series of the same name.
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Simon36 wrote:Of course there's also Play School in Potter's Angels are So Few...

Brookside didn't only use the puppet show, there are references to a soap the characters watch, can't think what it was but I seem to think it was a local soap which was shown in an educational slot or something?
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In early epsiodes of Peep Show, Mark and Jez make decisions based on what "God" is painting - actually satellite re-runs of the PBS series The Joy of Painting.
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Ian Wegg wrote:I've posted this before. In an episode of Coronation Street Stan Ogden switches off the TV when the theme music to Word In Action come on. (Presumably he'd been enjoying the previous programme).

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Similarly, Len Fairclough was once seen watching an episode of The Krypton Factor, which was the one which had just been transmitted in the previous slot that evening.

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I could swear I saw a George & Mildred where Mildred is ridiculing George for watching The Incredible Hulk. Possibly series 4 but more likely 5. I'm sure George got some dialogue about Lou Ferrigno, where is where I learned to pronounce his surname properly.

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There was an episode of "The Goodies" where Graeme Garden rushed to switch on his set to watch "Monty Python's Flying Circus". we saw the opening Terry Gilliam Credits and heard the theme music. Conversely on a BBC " Morecambe and Wise Show" Eric rushed to switch off the ITV show "Opportunity Knocks". We didn't see anything but heard an audio clip of Mike Yarwood impersonating Hughie Green's voice.

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