The Inaugural Christmas TV Location Competition

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The Inaugural Christmas TV Location Competition

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Well I just thought that it might be a nice idea if we could annually work together to find elusive locations from the archive. This year's sought after location is the exterior filmed house from the TV series After Henry, starring Prunella Scales, Joan Sanderson et al. Most locations for the series were filmed in Thames Ditton. However, after much searching I cannot find it! Tantalisingly the wikipedia entry also mentions Twickenham as a filming location. In addition, I once asked creator Simon Brett where it was filmed and he thought it might be in Teddington. So there are a few clues, lets see if we can find it. Maybe someone knows somebody that worked on the series on maybe a member lives in this area of London. It doesn't matter if neither apply to you as Google Streetview is available to all. It was a three storey Edwardian house with a large conservatory and an external spiral staircase. Hopefully I will upload a photo in due course. Happy hunting!

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It does seem to be one that eludes everyone, I certainly can't find it, and it's obviously under Thames's nose...but where.?

Another Thames location puzzle, the location for RAF Skelton in "Get Some In", would love to know that one..?

Apparently, the scenes for RAF Midham and Druidswater were done at RAF Halton in Buckinghamshire, and the island in the finale, "Operation Greenfly" was Cemaes Bay in Anglesey.
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On series 4 the Location Manager is listed as Garance Rawinsky. If anyone knows this lady I'm sure she would know the location.

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Got a picture? Is it the one covered in ivy?

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Yes that's the one. Unfortunately I forgot that we can't just upload photos onto this forum. I will have to put some images on the web then link to it.
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There's also the chance that some of the Actors will remember it.

Janine Wood and Jonathan Newth, for instance, and wasn't Edward de Souza in some of the exterior work?...I'm trying to remember who was in that location.
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I don't know if it's true,( because it's on Wiki ), but the page on "After Henry", is suggesting the house was demolished in 2006...!
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Thanks for that Mark. That update must have been added very recently as I was on there the other day and nothing was mentioned. Strange that it has now been added... and that there is no extra information. I woudl imagine it would be difficult to demolish a building of that era, due to protection etc but maybe not.

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Just checked and the comment was added on December 7th. This seems suspicious as I only started the thread a few days prior. Coinicidence?

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Does sound as if someone had been reading the thread, too much of a coincidence.

I agree with you, if true, it's a shock that a house like that would be demolished.

Although some lovely buildings in Windsor, that featured in "Carry On Cabby", have gone ( as displayed on 'The Whippit Inn' website) replaced with not so nice buildings.

With the news of the closure of RAF Halton ( I mentioned earlier in the thread) that's two Thames TV locations, that are or soon will be...no more.
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What I don't understand is why they didn't add to this thread? Odd to just update a wiki entry with vague info that is unreferenced. A shame if it is true but also frustrating that you can't id the entry writer to follow it up.

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Isn't there supposed to be some sort of 'verification needed' process that allows someone to add to a statement?

To find out the source.
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Looking at the wiki history the only info I could glean was that it was someone using Sky Broadband. Maybe a member hereread this and and enlarge.

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Don Satchley wrote:Thanks for that Mark. That update must have been added very recently as I was on there the other day and nothing was mentioned. Strange that it has now been added... and that there is no extra information. I woudl imagine it would be difficult to demolish a building of that era, due to protection etc but maybe not.
Sadly, this is not the case. It's not old enough to be worth listing, and if it was in a Conservation Area that wouldn't prevent demolition if the replacement was considered to fit in.

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Could well be right then I suppose, a great shame, as it was a lovely house.
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This is how it looks in the graphic of the opening titles (as found on YouTube). I suppose this is a fair representation? I haven't seen the programme for years and don't have it on DVD but I'm assuming there are lots of location shots in the episodes with clues to the area.

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I notice that Google has aerial images for Thames Ditton taken in December 2003. If the house truly was demolished in 2006/7, you could use the Google Earth app to toggle through 2003, 2006 and 2008 and look for changes.

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The house also had a large conservatory on the left side and an external spiral staircase on the right. I have looked through footage and there was a postbox nearby but no other clues. In one scene there was an estate agent sign which I managed to decipher but unfortunately it was one of the big chains that cover most of southern Britain.
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Looking at the tiny amount available on the internet, I see the spiral staircase on the closing graphic, and the lower floor and conservatory in one episode. There is also a very brief scene showing the street and a house opposite with white stone capped pillars at its entrance.

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Just bumping this thread to see if any members could enlighten us about the wikipedia entry? From the last of Ian's photos the house down the street a bit has a prominent jutting upper floor, that would be pretty memorable I imagine.
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Think I have finally found the house!

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Don Satchley wrote:Think I have finally found the house!
Absolutely brilliant Don.

Botophuckit have scuppered my pictures from a year ago so here they are again (courtesy of Flickr):

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There can be no doubt this is the correct house, all the features previously identified - conservatory, spiral stairs etc. - are there:

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...and the view opposite matches my previous screen grab.

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The jutting house is there,

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the closer property no longer has the stone capped pillars but the same type is still evident in the adjacent houses.

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I Google Earthed those streets for hours but didn't spot it. Well done, what gave you the breakthrough?

I'm very glad the "demolished in 2006/7" statement was unfounded, I see it has already been removed from Wikipedia.

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Thanks Ian. On another forum Tony Keetch, who appeared in one episode, said he remembered that the house wasn't far from Richmond Bridge. I had a quick look on Google and realised that was an area I hadn't tried. In the past I have looked mainly at Thames Ditton, Teddington and parts of Twickenham bordering those areas. So I had a look and after about half and hour I found it. It is good to tick it off as I have been looking for ages and there were a few diversions along the way, not least that wikipedia entry, which I deleted yesterday.
On a bizarre twist I typed the address into Google to have a look again and the first hit on the main search shows that the owners open the garden via the NGS initiative a few times a year. There is even a website which shows that the house is owned by news presenter Sophie Raworth's parents. Small world. The family have owned the property since the 1970s so would have been living there when filming took place.

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Don Satchley wrote:There is even a website which shows that the house is owned by news presenter Sophie Raworth's parents. Small world. The family have owned the property since the 1970s so would have been living there when filming took place.
Fascinating! Sophie Raworth was one of the subjects of the last series of Who Do You Think You Are? (S13 E10). It started (as most of them do) with Sophie visiting her parents in their home, I must look out for a repeat and pay more attention.

This has been an unusually difficult location quest considering the frequency of its use, congratulations on finally tracking it down.

I'm looking forward to your next challenge!

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Hadn't spotted this update...what great news!

So it still exists, makes you wonder the purpose of the misinformation on Wiki.?

There are one or two photos of the house from the time. in the ITV archive.
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