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Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:13 am
by Brock
One of my favourite TV-related websites is UK Game Shows, which manages to be entertainingly written while also giving comprehensive details of the mechanics of pretty much every UK TV game show past and present (plus many radio shows). However, it appears to have let me down on this occasion.

The rounds listed for the half-hour stand-alone version of Name That Tune, which started in 1983, are correctly given as "Melody Roulette", "Sing a Note", "Bid a Note" (the one everyone remembers - "I'll name that tune in seven") and "Golden Medley", after which the winner moved on to the fiendishly difficult Prize Tune. UK Game Shows also correctly notes that the show originated as the "filler" entertainment in Tom O'Connor's variety show Wednesday at Eight (later London Night Out).

But what was the format when it was part of Wednesday at Eight? UKGS doesn't say - there's no entry for Wednesday at Eight because it wasn't itself a game show. And I'm pretty sure that at least some of the rounds were different - it was obviously shorter for one thing. I'm fairly certain that "Bid a Note" was part of the earlier version, but I'm not at all sure about the other rounds. I seem to remember a game called "Add a Note", and I don't think "Sing a Note" was there. But it's all a bit of a blur to be honest. Can anyone help?

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:12 pm
by Mark
Crumbs, I'm trying to remember, it was spread out through each show wasn't it.?...so there were various rounds.

There is only two editions surviving, so it would be largely down to memory.

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:04 am
by Brock
Mark wrote:Crumbs, I'm trying to remember, it was spread out through each show wasn't it.?...so there were various rounds.
No, it was the second section of the show, between the two commercial breaks - like Beat the Clock in Sunday Night at the London Palladium. I really used to like Wednesday at Eight - there was something in it for everyone. Shame they don't make shows like that any more!
There is only two editions surviving, so it would be largely down to memory.
Really? Don't forget that London Night Out was essentially the same show with a different title. (I think it was renamed so that STV could show it on a Friday.)

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:45 am
by ray lomas
Not sure if this is one of those already mentioned, but I recall there being a round involving a magnetic board containing tiles with the titles of songs on them which the contestants had to arrange into the correct order then press a buzzer when they were finished. I mostly remember this because of one week where one of the contestants ran back towards his buzzer but couldn't quite stop himself in time and went flying off the edge of the stage.

Fairly certain this was one of the Wednesday At Eight/LNO sections as it was required viewing in our house at the time, unlike the standalone version.

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:00 pm
by Mark
Some better memories than me, then, and I also saw it at the time.

Forgot about "London Night Out" ( all of which exists) so I thought I'd cracked it, when it was mentioned, as I then recalled taping it.

However, for some inexplicable reason, I didn't tape any complete shows.!...only bits and not with the "NTT" game, just extracts like Dana singing 'Something's Cooking In The Kitchen", on a rather snazzy Kitchen set, from a 1981 edition.

Remember the stand alone version, of course.

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:19 pm
by Brock
ray lomas wrote:Not sure if this is one of those already mentioned, but I recall there being a round involving a magnetic board containing tiles with the titles of songs on them which the contestants had to arrange into the correct order then press a buzzer when they were finished. I mostly remember this because of one week where one of the contestants ran back towards his buzzer but couldn't quite stop himself in time and went flying off the edge of the stage.

Fairly certain this was one of the Wednesday At Eight/LNO sections as it was required viewing in our house at the time, unlike the standalone version.
Wasn't that a round in Beat the Clock - "arrange these words into a well-known phrase or saying"? I suppose it might have been incorporated into Name That Tune as well.

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:52 am
by Simon36
It was a 15 minute slot on LNO/ WAE, and definitely begun with the first round of the longer edition, the "melody roulette". I my memory it was just that, but I may be wrong.

Wasnt the show at some point also called "Night Out At The London Casino?"

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:29 pm
by Brock
Simon36 wrote:It was a 15 minute slot on LNO/ WAE, and definitely begun with the first round of the longer edition, the "melody roulette". I my memory it was just that, but I may be wrong.
One round wouldn't have been long enough to fill a 15-minute slot. I think there were three rounds, the last being the classic "Bid a Note" game that everyone remembers (making "I'll name that tune in three" into a catchphrase). If "Melody Roulette" was the first round, that leaves a gap for the second, which definitely wasn't "Sing a Note" - the full-length version employed a singer (Maggie Moone or Sheeba) to sing the verse of a well-known song, and I'm pretty sure they weren't in the shorter version. I still have this nagging feeling that one of the games was called "Add a Note".

(The reason why I'm asking is that I've incorporated the game into my own amateur game show "All the Right Notes" and I'd like to be able to credit it properly!)
Wasnt the show at some point also called "Night Out At The London Casino?"
Ooh, now you're asking. IMDb says there were 7 episodes of Night Out At the London Casino in 1977, which would have been during Wednesday at Eight's run. I never saw it myself but it was another variety show presented by Tom O'Connor. Whether it was the same format as Wednesday at Eight I can't say - it would have been very odd to have two series with the same format running in parallel!

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:34 pm
by Simon36
Was it perhaps the case that i started off as "... at the London Casino", then went to "London Night Out" when the venue changed, then finally to "Wednesday at 8" when it was networked?

Tom O'Connor would know the answers to all these questions, and he seems a very affable chap!

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:38 pm
by Brock
Simon36 wrote:Was it perhaps the case that i started off as "... at the London Casino", then went to "London Night Out" when the venue changed, then finally to "Wednesday at 8" when it was networked?
No, as I've already explained it changed its name from Wednesday at Eight to London Night Out, not the other way round (see first post in "Changing the time" thread). Still don't know how Casino fitted in.
Tom O'Connor would know the answers to all these questions, and he seems a very affable chap!
He might have forgotten by now!

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:34 pm
by sxbarnes
The rounds I remember on London Night Out were a Beat The Clock type round with words which had to be made into a song title. Then Bid a Note and finishing with the Golden Medley for the £1000

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:21 am
by Brock
sxbarnes wrote:The rounds I remember on London Night Out were a Beat The Clock type round with words which had to be made into a song title. Then Bid a Note and finishing with the Golden Medley for the £1000
Ah, thanks. So either I'm misremembering, or they changed the format when the show morphed from WAE to LNO. Perhaps we shall never know!

Re: Name That Tune - original format

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:04 pm
by sxbarnes
I've just found an edition from 1983, so was London Night Out. The rounds were.. Spin A wheel, Golden Oldies, Bid a Note and Melody Roulette.

Golden Oldies was just 5 questions based on the discs behind Tom O'Connor.