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The Lurker In The Shadows wrote:
Brock wrote:
Incidentally, Unman Wittering and Zigo was broadcast on Radio 4 Extra last week:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b092g2h0
I see that the Credits on the BBC page there are for the 1971 film cast and not the radio cast.
Oh yes - how strange! And yet if you look at the full billing for the programme, it lists the 1958 radio cast in full.

Wonder how that slip-up occurred?

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Just received my copy of "The Crunch and other stories". Never had chance to see the lead title before so that will be a treat, and it'll also be nice to be reunited with Mr Kneale's two black comedies from the 1980s. Just had the pleasure of reading Billy Smart's viewing notes which set the scene nicely along with a contribution from Roy Battersby. So delighted that material of this sort is commercially viable for physical release on DVD.

All the best

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Speaking of Giles Cooper, are we likely to see his TV adaptations of Maigret any time soon?

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bent_halo wrote:Not wishing to crash on Billy's produce, but that Giles Cooper radio set is finally available:

http://www.inthedarkradio.org/giles-coo ... dio-plays/
Yay! That's some of my birthday money spent...
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Two more Forgotten TV Drama titles announced:

Armchair Theatre Archive: Volume 1 - http://networkonair.com/exclusives/2794 ... 1-pre-buy-

Nothing To Pay (1962, w. Alun Richards d. Charles Jarrott)
The Cherry on the Top (1964, w. Donald Churchill d. Guy Verney)
Light the Blue Touch Paper (1966, w. John Hale d. Charles Jarrott)
Edward the Confessor (1969, w. Leigh Vance d. Henry Kaplan)

Armchair Theatre Archive: Volume 2 - http://networkonair.com/exclusives/2795 ... 2-pre-buy-

Worm in the Bud (1959, w. John D. Stewart d. Charles Jarrott)
The Invasion (1963, w. Angus Wilson d. Charles Jarrott)
The Chocolate Tree (1963, w. Andrew Sinclair d. Alan Cooke)
What's Wrong With Humpty Dumpty? (1967, w. Hugh Whitemore d. Charles Jarrott)

That's a lot of Charles Jarrott! All including the usual Viewing Notes from Lez Cooke, John Hill and Billy Smart.

There should be seven volumes of these, all taken from the 1950s and 60s ABC run of the series - think along the lines of the Ealing Rarities British Film collections.

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Billy Smart wrote:Two more Forgotten TV Drama titles announced:

Armchair Theatre Archive: Volume 1 - http://networkonair.com/exclusives/2794 ... 1-pre-buy-

Nothing To Pay (1962, w. Alun Richards d. Charles Jarrott)
The Cherry on the Top (1964, w. Donald Churchill d. Guy Verney)
Light the Blue Touch Paper (1966, w. John Hale d. Charles Jarrott)
Edward the Confessor (1969, w. Leigh Vance d. Henry Kaplan)

Armchair Theatre Archive: Volume 2 - http://networkonair.com/exclusives/2795 ... 2-pre-buy-

Worm in the Bud (1959, w. John D. Stewart d. Charles Jarrott)
The Invasion (1963, w. Angus Wilson d. Charles Jarrott)
The Chocolate Tree (1963, w. Andrew Sinclair d. Alan Cooke)
What's Wrong With Humpty Dumpty? (1967, w. Hugh Whitemore d. Charles Jarrott)

That's a lot of Charles Jarrott! All including the usual Viewing Notes from Lez Cooke, John Hill and Billy Smart.

There should be seven volumes of these, all taken from the 1950s and 60s ABC run of the series - think along the lines of the Ealing Rarities British Film collections.
Thanks, Billy, that's great news. I was hoping Network would continue their Armchair Theatres volumes one day. I don't really see much difference between these volumes under the 'Armchair Theatre Archive' brand and those they put out under just 'Armchair Theatre' - I suppose the previous ones had a handful of well known (to the archive TV fraternity at least) plays included, whereas these are all more obscure, but it's the same series - but if it takes a bit of sleight of hand with the forgotten drama range to get them released at all then I'm not complaining.

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I pre-ordered Vols 1 + 2 of the new "Armchair Theatre Archive" series, and although Vol 2 has turned up, Vol 1 was not in the package. Do I need to be worried, or has Vol 2 come out ahead of Vol 1 ....?

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Stephen James Walker wrote:I pre-ordered Vols 1 + 2 of the new "Armchair Theatre Archive" series, and although Vol 2 has turned up, Vol 1 was not in the package. Do I need to be worried, or has Vol 2 come out ahead of Vol 1 ....?
Hi, Stephen.

Looking over at Roobarb's Forum, it seems you are not the only one. See here...

http://www.zetaminor.com/roobarb/showthread.php?38431-Armchair-Theatre-(Network)/page13&highlight=armchair+theatre

I'm not sure they are actually due out before Monday though.

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Thanks Michael - seems like it's a general issue!

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Eagle-eyed internet scourers may have noticed that the BBFC have announced the plays for the next two volumes of Armchair Theatre Archive on their website (both certificate 12, by the way):

Armchair Theatre Archive Volume 3

8 Mar 1959 The Bird, The Bear & The Actress (w. John Glennon d. Ted Kotcheff)
19 Aug 1962 The Fishing Match (w. Norman King d. Alan Cooke)
18 Apr 1965 The Man Who Came To Die (w. Reginald Marsh d. Jonathan Alwyn)
10 Sep 1966 Dead Silence (w. Monte Doyle d. John Moxey)

Armchair Theatre Archive Volume 4

10 Oct 1959 The Thought Of Tomorrow (w. James Brabzon d. Alan Cooke)
3 Jul 1960 Armchair Mystery Theatre: Toff & Fingers (w. Robert Kemp d. Robert Tronson)
7 Jul 1963 Late Summer (w. Alexander Baron d. Reginald Colin)
11 Dec 1965 The Gong Game (w. Michael Harald d. Bill Bain)

No release date has yet been set, but they're coming!

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Billy Smart wrote:Eagle-eyed internet scourers may have noticed that the BBFC have announced the plays for the next two volumes of Armchair Theatre Archive on their website (both certificate 12, by the way):
Vol. 3 pre-ordered and very much looked forward to, especially since Vols. 1 & 2 have turned out to be far more engaging than the previous Network releases of the series!
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I don't know if it's still worth making suggestions for further inclusions in this range, but two releases I would really love to see are "Brond", an excellent drama shown by Channel 4 in 1987 starring Stratford Johns and John Hannah, with a Scottish independence theme, and an unedited version of the BBC serial "Natural Lies", which did come out on DVD from the BBC but in a highly edited form.

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Armchair Theatre Archive vol 4 is up for pre-orders now. I wonder if there's any chance of "The Ballad Of Artificial Mash" turning up on a future volume?

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Stephen James Walker wrote:I don't know if it's still worth making suggestions for further inclusions in this range, but two releases I would really love to see are "Brond", an excellent drama shown by Channel 4 in 1987 starring Stratford Johns and John Hannah, with a Scottish independence theme, and an unedited version of the BBC serial "Natural Lies", which did come out on DVD from the BBC but in a highly edited form.
It is... but neither of those suggestions would be within our remit, because the 'Forgotten' titles are taken from the ITV archive.

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Juswuh wrote:I wonder if there's any chance of "The Ballad Of Artificial Mash" turning up on a future volume?
That one doesn't survive, alas.

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Billy Smart wrote:It is... but neither of those suggestions would be within our remit, because the 'Forgotten' titles are taken from the ITV archive.
You mean apart from the ones made by ABC :-)
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Billy Smart wrote:
Stephen James Walker wrote:I don't know if it's still worth making suggestions for further inclusions in this range, but two releases I would really love to see are "Brond", an excellent drama shown by Channel 4 in 1987 starring Stratford Johns and John Hannah, with a Scottish independence theme, and an unedited version of the BBC serial "Natural Lies", which did come out on DVD from the BBC but in a highly edited form.
It is... but neither of those suggestions would be within our remit, because the 'Forgotten' titles are taken from the ITV archive.
Thanks Billy. I must admit I'd not spotted the fact that that this strand was ITV only, and I know that Network does sometimes release BBC and other material. Hopefully "Brond" and "Natural Lies" will come to someone's attention one day!

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Stephen James Walker wrote:I don't know if it's still worth making suggestions for further inclusions in this range, but two releases I would really love to see are "Brond", an excellent drama shown by Channel 4 in 1987 starring Stratford Johns and John Hannah, with a Scottish independence theme, and an unedited version of the BBC serial "Natural Lies", which did come out on DVD from the BBC but in a highly edited form.
I didn't realise the Natural Lies DVD was cut. Guess I still need to hang on to my off-air VHS a bit longer.
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Billy Smart wrote:It is... but neither of those suggestions would be within our remit, because the 'Forgotten' titles are taken from the ITV archive.
I guess that the surviving fragments of The Other Man would be a stretch...?
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Nick Cooper 625 wrote:
Stephen James Walker wrote:I don't know if it's still worth making suggestions for further inclusions in this range, but two releases I would really love to see are "Brond", an excellent drama shown by Channel 4 in 1987 starring Stratford Johns and John Hannah, with a Scottish independence theme, and an unedited version of the BBC serial "Natural Lies", which did come out on DVD from the BBC but in a highly edited form.
I didn't realise the Natural Lies DVD was cut. Guess I still need to hang on to my off-air VHS a bit longer.
Yes, the original series was in three episodes of, if I recall correctly, around 50 minutes each, giving a total running time of around 150 minutes. Having just checked an online listing for the DVD, it gives a running time of 120 minutes - so there's about half an hour missing. Fortunately, I do have a DVD-R copy of the full version, copied many moons ago from my now-discarded VHS off-air (and the same goes for "Brond"), but I'd love to be able to get it in pristine quality again.

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I've discovered a couple of useful things about The Invasion since I wrote the Viewing Notes last year, so I've posted them up on the Forgotten Television Drama blog - https://forgottentelevisiondrama.wordpr ... us-wilson/

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'Forgotten TV Drama' title #8 has been announced. It's For Maddie With Love (ATV 1980):
Hard-hitting and unsentimental, For Maddie With Love is the story of a woman who knows she is dying and, in doing so, rediscovers the love she has for her husband and family.

Showcasing memorable performances from Nyree Dawn Porter and Ian Hendry and an affecting, stylishly minimalist design ethic, this daytime afternoon drama – which ran twice-weekly through much of 1980 – became compulsive viewing due to its powerful take on terminal illness, self-determined euthanasia and the aftermath of a death in the family.

This set contains all 48 episodes from both series of this classic drama.

SPECIAL FEATURE
Limited edition booklet by archive television historian Billy Smart
Its available as a pre-order from Network. £20 for 48 episodes is pretty good value!

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A short preview of the release, including some reflections from Douglas Watkinson (creator of For Maddie With Love) - https://forgottentelevisiondrama.wordpr ... -atv-1980/

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My first post to this thread: are there any plans to include "I'll Have You to Remember" on a future Armchair Theatre Archive set?

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Not that I know, but it would be possible.

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And Prisoner and Escort and I Am Osango. Obviously.
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Billy Smart wrote:Not that I know, but it would be possible.
If there are going to be seven volumes, I do hope you can pull some strings and put the one I mentioned on one of them - it seems like a conscious comment through analogy and metaphor on the condition of post-Suez, pre-Beatles Britain, and I'm always interested in that kind of thing.

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This Anglia "Sunday Night Theatre" play from 1970 has been put up on YT, by ITV news, so it's official.

Some of these would be great on DVD from Network.

"Sunday Night Theatre"
"A cup of Tea....Tea...Tea"

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