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Something I thought about recently. Some examples that come to mind:

Fireball XL5- Don Spencer song at the end.
Stingray- "Marina" song at the end.
Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons- two different end themes used. No intro theme as such.
Joe 90 (different arrangement of the intro theme)
UFO
The Sweeney, (like Joe 90, a different arrangement of the intro theme)
The Scales of Justice- The Tornadoes arrangement at the end.
Record Breakers- different Roy Castle sung songs.
Porridge- like Captain Scarlet no into theme as such.

Blue Peter- for a brief period the original end theme was retained after the start theme changed to the Mike Oldfield version.

World in Action-In contrast to Blue Peter a new version of the theme was used but reverted to the original version for the closing credits.

Must be more examples!

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Blackadder 3?
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The Two Ronnies
Jim'll Fix It
Only Fools and Horses
Wimbledon (although I don't think they use "A Sporting Occasion" at the end any more)

I'm sure there are plenty of others - we may have had a thread on this before.

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Think I heard that used on the last Wimbledon though.

I stand open to correction but thought the end theme of, "Only Fools and Horses" was a continuation of the opening theme, likewise with the earlier episodes of, "Upstairs Downstairs".

"Worzel Gummidge" is another example of a different arrangement being used at the end.

For a short time, probably late '69 or early 1970, "Top of the Pops" introduced a new opening theme but retained the previous one at the end.

The second series of, "Howard's Way" used a drab vocal version of the theme at the end I recall.

Oh yes, "Crown Court" of course!

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In the same tune but noticeably different arrangement pile you could add the filmed Special Branch episodes and The Ghosts of Motley Hall.
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Focus II wrote: I stand open to correction but thought the end theme of, "Only Fools and Horses" was a continuation of the opening theme, likewise with the earlier episodes of, "Upstairs Downstairs".
I don't think so - the eponymous "Only Fools and Horses" at the start and "Hooky Street" at the end. Both written and performed by John Sullivan though.

(Apart from the first series, which had an opening and closing theme tune by Ronnie Hazlehurst - but it's hard to find copies that haven't been re-edited!)

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I used to know dozens of these, in the days before the internet rendered such knowledge redundant. The only one not previously mentioned that I can still recall is Auf Wiedersehen Pet.

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Simon Coward wrote:In the same tune but noticeably different arrangement pile you could add the filmed Special Branch episodes and The Ghosts of Motley Hall.
The first Euston Films series perhaps, the episodes when George Sewell looks at the camera before walking into the distance? The second and final series certainly used the same arrangement as the opening titles.

The Public Eye Brighton episodes used a special arrangement of the theme. The last episode of that series returned to the original arrangement at the end of the episode.

Rumour has it Thunderbirds originally intended to have a song at the end in the tradition of Fireball XL5 and Stingray but was dropped in favour of the main start theme.

I really detested the 1980 re-recording of the, "Doctor Who" theme I still do. Really put me off the programme. The closing of the 1983 story, "The Five Doctors" used part of the original theme speeded up before fading into the hideous Peter Howell version.

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Roobarb's did this a decade ago - here's the thread...

http://www.zetaminor.com/roobarb/showth ... ing-themes

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Spiny Norman wrote:Blackadder 3?

Yes , this was my first thought. Loved the way that a different song was sung based on what happened in the episode.

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This is where I first came across the concept[/url].

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Ian Wegg wrote:I used to know dozens of these, in the days before the internet rendered such knowledge redundant. The only one not previously mentioned that I can still recall is Auf Wiedersehen Pet.
Erm...isn't there one in particular, you forgot...( nods to right of your post!).

There was also "Boon", which often had various C&W tunes for the end titles, as opposed to the "Hi Ho Silver" theme.
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Highway to heaven theme i think got better as the series progressed.

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Never saw the Roobarb thread. Many thanks for the link.
Seems they came to the same conclusions.

"Dad's Army" is another famous example of a different instrumental arrangement of the sung theme at the end.

Arguably we could include, "Life on Mars" and "Our Friends In the North" which always had a commercially released recording for the closing credits, though not actually theme tunes as such.

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marsey wrote:
Spiny Norman wrote:Blackadder 3?

Yes , this was my first thought. Loved the way that a different song was sung based on what happened in the episode.

That was Blackadder 2.

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Mark wrote:Erm...isn't there one in particular, you forgot...( nods to right of your post!).
Doh! ... well I said my memory was going! I see it's mentioned in the Roobarb's post.

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Monkey! I always loved the way the opening theme was very upbeat and in the present tense while the closing was more wistful and emphasised that it all happened a long time ago. All together now..."In Gandhara, Gandhara, They say it was in India...."

(In a similar vein, I liked the trick in some of the 80s Doctor Who title sequences where the opening was travelling forwards and the closing was the reverse.)

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Another Gerry Anderson one is The Protectors; instrumental intro of the Tony Christie song (Avenues and Alleyways) in the credits.
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The sad news about Jim Bowen has reminded me: if the Bullseye contestants didn't win the star prize, they played a minor key version of the music over the closing credits.

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Ronco wrote:
marsey wrote:
Spiny Norman wrote:Blackadder 3?

Yes , this was my first thought. Loved the way that a different song was sung based on what happened in the episode.

That was Blackadder 2.
Yes, sorry, you are correct. I guess it had the same tune (but with lyrics) whilst BF3 had totally different music.

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Same thing with "Turtles Progress", instrumental for main theme, and the vocals version ( with Alan Price) for the end credits.
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One of my favourite examples was a one off episode of "The Avengers", the cobbled together "Homicide And Old Lace" ( I may be the only person who liked that episode) the usual end credits were accompanied by 'Rule Britannia' played by a one man band, followed by a cheering football crowd, and then the final bars of the familiar theme...great fun!
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Mark wrote:One of my favourite examples was a one off episode of "The Avengers", the cobbled together "Homicide And Old Lace" ( I may be the only person who liked that episode) the usual end credits were accompanied by 'Rule Britannia' played by a one man band, followed by a cheering football crowd, and then the final bars of the familiar theme...great fun!
I also rate that episode with its fun storytelling throughout. I'd forgotten about the ending. Also like others with narration, such as The Avengers "Who's' Who" and The New Avengers "K is for Kill - part 2" (Patrick's recap).

The final episode credits of Doctor Who Earthshock are in silence for Adric.
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Top Gear had different opening and closing theme tunes until it's 2000's relaunch

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It's a long time ago, but I'm fairly sure that Andy Pandy had a special closing theme.

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The original Battlestar Galactica had the end theme faster and with more prominent drums.

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brigham wrote:It's a long time ago, but I'm fairly sure that Andy Pandy had a special closing theme.
It did indeed.
Come to think of it quite a few, "Watch With Mother" programmes used different start and end themes: Camberwick Green, Chigley, Mary, Mungo and Midge and Fingerbobs come to mind.

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