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No Film 2019

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:01 pm
by Brock
The BBC has announced the end of the long-running programme that began as Film '71:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46694568

I don't think I've seen it since Barry Norman's era, but it's difficult not to feel nostalgic.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:37 pm
by Mark
That's a shame.

Saw the odd Ross edition, but wasn't the same after the mighty Norman shows.

As you say, great nostalgia for the original and that theme tune.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:40 pm
by Juswuh
It's surprising that it ran so long after Barry Norman left.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:56 pm
by Mark
Yes that's true, but I suppose there was still sufficient interest to keep it rattling along.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:25 pm
by brigham
That dirge of a tune always put me in mind of an aged cinema dragging itself along in the shadow of Bingo.
..."In 2019 we will be creating an enhanced offer for lovers of film both on television and online..."
Is that some sort of sales pitch?

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:12 pm
by drmih
I think they tried to get Mark Kermode at one stage but he wasn't interested - that might have given it a lift and brought along the 5 Live audience.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:34 pm
by Mark
brigham wrote:That dirge of a tune always put me in mind of an aged cinema dragging itself along in the shadow of Bingo.
..."In 2019 we will be creating an enhanced offer for lovers of film both on television and online..."
Is that some sort of sales pitch?
Interesting view, I thought the Theme was quite a stylish piece of music.

Not sure what that 'Enhanced Offer' could mean!

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:35 pm
by Mark
drmih wrote:I think they tried to get Mark Kermode at one stage but he wasn't interested - that might have given it a lift and brought along the 5 Live audience.
He could well have been good, he's done some interesting shows on BBC Four.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:22 pm
by Ian Fryer
Mark wrote:
drmih wrote:I think they tried to get Mark Kermode at one stage but he wasn't interested - that might have given it a lift and brought along the 5 Live audience.
He could well have been good, he's done some interesting shows on BBC Four.
He'd have been great, and his BBC News Channel Film Review slot serves the same purpose. Kermode claimed on his Radio 5 Live show that he was too independent in his views for such a high-profile TV slot, citing his much-expressed loathing of the latest comeback of 3-D.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:11 am
by Mark
Can't say I am all that excited about another 3D comeback either, always just a passing novelty.

He's always loved "Dougal And The Blue Cat", so he does have excellent taste.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:59 am
by Simon36
I don’t think Kermode would have worked, he is far too much of a sourpuss for a mainstream show like that. My money would have been on Antonia Quirke.

I do agree on the music; i always found it dreary.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:26 pm
by Brock
Simon36 wrote: I do agree on the music; i always found it dreary.
Have you heard the vocal version by Nina Simone? I think it's wonderful.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:56 pm
by Simon36
Brock wrote:
Simon36 wrote: I do agree on the music; i always found it dreary.
Have you heard the vocal version by Nina Simone? I think it's wonderful.
Absolutely. But the version used on the show I thought was so boring, as, to me, was Barry Norman.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:20 pm
by Mark
Thought it was a great shame when Norman went over to Sky, always liked his style and he certainly knew his stuff.

Re: No Film 2019

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:35 am
by Ian Fryer
Earlier in the year I was researching some old Times film reviews and came across some of Barry Norman's work for the paper. He was a really entertaining writer, his prose having the same flow as his spoken film reviews, mixing good humour and a clearly vast knowledge of his subject.

Funnily enough I got into a short Twitter conversation with Mark Kermode on the subject, as he's a Barry Norman fan. Norman was the perfect host for that original format of Film 71 (etc.) and I don't think we appreciated him enough until he wasn't there any more.

I agree up to a point about the theme tune - for some reason they picked the dullest part of quite a good jazz piano piece and in later years a slightly livelier passage was chosen.