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Thought it might be a good idea to put all the various databases on here ( so as not to distract from the "AOW" thread).

Here's the ones from Spiny:
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Delpher

beeldengeluid

(German)
FFernsehen der DDR

https://www.fernsehserien.de/fernsehserien.de

(Flemish)
Het Archeif

(Italian)
LA STA

(Spanish)
BV PH

Here's one for Australia, with some schedules.

Television.AU
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It would be interesting to find out the various set ups for ITV Overseas sales.

For instance, when did Granada start sales?...the early series of "The Army Game" don't appear to have been sold, only series 4 ( and strangely not the final series) but all of "Bootsie And Snudge" was.
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I think the first post still needs some work... delpher/nl/kranten are Dutch newspapers which include the TV pages.
While hetarchief is Flemish (although the language is Dutch)...
The Dutch one is: https://zoeken.beeldengeluid.nl/

Those two are the only ones that show directly the archive holdings of their national broadcasters. The German ones are essentially just info - well, a lot of info; although there are also a few German channels that do on-demand, but without showing a full catalogue.

France: https://fresques.ina.fr or https://www.ina.fr - not completely sure what the difference is.
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Sorry, corrected!

Seems to be more Databases cropping up now, all helps!
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New Zealand

Archives:
https://www.ngataonga.org.nz/ - New Zealand’s audiovisual archive. their purpose is to collect, care for and share the audiovisual Taonga (treasure, anything prized) of Aotearoa. They have stewardship of the Television New Zealand video archives which might include a bit of UK material but probably not a lot.
Status of the collection: http://www.lonely.geek.nz/kiwi-tv/index ... n-the-move

Schedules
https://www.noted.co.nz/the-listener - was the publication of record for NZ TV broadcasts for most of 20th century. Their website sucks, and as far as I know there's no plan to digitize back issues so any research on screenings needs to be with hard copies in a library. Might be some collections of the Listener in the UK https://www.llas.ac.uk/resources/gpg/2057.html ... University of Edinburgh by the looks https://discovered.ed.ac.uk/permalink/f ... 9610002466

I "borrow" any scans of schedules I happen across on the inter-webs and put them here: http://www.lonely.geek.nz/kiwi-tv/index ... -the-years
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Some interesting snippets there, first episode of "Robin Hood" in 1960, ( and "The Archers" on the Radio) and "Coronation Street" and "The Protectors" in 73.
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Lots of TV listings for New Zealand Television (1970s to 1990s) here for those with lots of time on their hands

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?van ... 4375042763

Scanned off Microfilm, but still must have taken an insane amount of time to do... I salute those responsible.
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The original microfilming would have been the tediously slow bit. The scanning from microfilm is actually quite quick and automated. Thanks for the link as it is always interesting to see the formats of other listing magazines and what was being broadcast.

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Razor Eddie wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:49 am
Lots of TV listings for New Zealand Television (1970s to 1990s) here for those with lots of time on their hands

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?van ... 4375042763
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Looking generally at mid-1970s, apart from news and a small selection of other programming including some output for children, NZ TV of the time filled their schedules with British programming! Even seemed to outnumber US originated shows.

Outside of Britain itself, the local airwaves must have screened more UK output that anywhere else!
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Australia didn't seem to be too far behind either, I was regularly getting tapes of Off-Air material back at the start of the 80's.

Lots of stuff, "Doctor Who", "Doctor In Charge", "Whodunnit", and "The Tomorrow People", (grotty looking colour film recordings) to name a few.

Some more good listings found there, by the way, good stuff!
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Australia didn't seem to be too far behind either, I was regularly getting tapes of Off-Air material back at the start of the 80's.
Yes, the main Australian commercial networks of that period (7, 9 and 10) also screened many UK shows, although they also took a lot more US programmes than New Zealand did at that time (the 70s). The ABC had a lot of the 'worthier' British stuff too.

By the 80s in NZ, the US content did increase - they had 3 channels by then - as did more indigenous production which seemed very sparse a decade earlier.
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"The Goodies" was another that was screened many times of course, and two otherwise missing episodes of "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" exist thanks to Aus screenings.
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"The Goodies" was another that was screened many times of course, and two otherwise missing episodes of "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" exist thanks to Aus screenings.
It's almost easier/quicker to name the British shows of the 70s (comedy and drama) that DIDN'T air in Australia than those that did!
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doubleM wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 7:57 am
Mark wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 2:42 am
"The Goodies" was another that was screened many times of course, and two otherwise missing episodes of "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" exist thanks to Aus screenings.
It's almost easier/quicker to name the British shows of the 70s (comedy and drama) that DIDN'T air in Australia than those that did!
Marty Back Together Again (1974). Very certain it didn't.

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ProfessorP wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 8:25 pm
doubleM wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 7:57 am
Mark wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 2:42 am
"The Goodies" was another that was screened many times of course, and two otherwise missing episodes of "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" exist thanks to Aus screenings.
It's almost easier/quicker to name the British shows of the 70s (comedy and drama) that DIDN'T air in Australia than those that did!
Marty Back Together Again (1974). Very certain it didn't.
If offered, I wonder why it was turned down?
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Just like most other areas of arts and culture until the mid 80s NZ tended to have "british is best" approach to nearly everything so favoured uk shows - in the 50s and event up to late 60s there was a serious concern that New Zealand needed to avoid become too "Americanised", but WE got to see most of the popular shows from the UK and the US, plus a few obscurities and the odd show from other countries as well.

This anglophilia extended to accents; Karen Hay, who turned up on TV hosting the rock show Radio with Pictures in 1981, was the first New Zealand television presenter to speak with a New Zealand accent - until then if you closed your eyes you'd have thought you were listening to the BBC.
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doubleM wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 7:57 am
Mark wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 2:42 am
"The Goodies" was another that was screened many times of course, and two otherwise missing episodes of "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" exist thanks to Aus screenings.
It's almost easier/quicker to name the British shows of the 70s (comedy and drama) that DIDN'T air in Australia than those that did!
Actually, one very popular British programme that I’m almost certain didn’t air in Australia was Dixon Of Dock Green. I don’t recall seeing it and I’ve never come across it any old TV listings. I just assumed it probably did screen here, but I just never saw it. Considering it was one of the BBC’s most popular shows, at least judging by its longevity, it’s strange it never made it to our screens, that I’m aware of anyway.

We did get Z Cars though, at least for a while and its “spinoffs”, Softly Softly and Barlow At Large. We even got Crossroads for a short time, in 1974, a fact which I only found out about a couple of years ago, because I have no recollection of seeing it, probably because it was on during the day when I was at school. Coronation Street was an afternoon perennial for many years in the 60s and 70s, starting in 1964, but seemed to fall from favour here sometime in the early to mid-80s.

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This suggests it was shown, but I haven't found listings yet:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... 20green%22

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There is a reference to it being 'Exported around the world', and 'Being particularly popular in Australia'.

Good chance NZ took it as well, if that's the case.
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This might make broadcast research a little bit easier for NZ Screenings when the issues from 60s on are added; The press usually ran daily listings with some reviews and promotional articles/interviews.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/ ... s-archives
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Apparently Jack Warner claims in his autobiography that it didn't sell abroad, but New Zealand at least screened the 1964/5 series a couple of years later, (rather coincidentally that's the only series that had an extensive repeat run in the UK).

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Sounds like that's all there was then, I think NZ would have got them from Australia, as they would have paid the full costs.
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