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Talking Pictures announce: We are also delighted to announce that we have recovered two more lost episodes of the series 'No Hiding Place', consisting of the episode 'A Pocketful of Bones' airing Thursday the 20th of August at 1pm and 'Whoever's Right, Sweeney's Wrong' airing Monday the 31st of August at 7pm.

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Great news.
I hope the public give TP a bit of space to do their thing as they have achieved what nobody else has in finding unseen material and actually getting NHP back on TV.

The trouble is as the old saying goes "no good deed goes unpunished" TP will probably be bombarded with requests on why this or that is not being shown .. or why say a 10 second shot missing from No Hiding Place blah blah.

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The first of those two is from series 4, and the second is the first episode of series 7 from 65, the same run as "Music For Murder" shown the other week.

Great news, looking forward to these.
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Got to see "A Pocketfull of Bones", very good indeed, and another great cast, although I thought "Music For Murder" was a better episode.

There were film jumps in a couple of places, but good quality otherwise, some nice snow covered filmed exteriors, quite a strong storyline for the time as well.
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With that first talk on the recovered body it could almost have been an episode of "Quincy ME".

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Brian F wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:47 am
With that first talk on the recovered body it could almost have been an episode of "Quincy ME".
Ah well Rediffusion had something for you there called The Hidden Truth same era but apparently no episodes exist.

A Pocket full of Bones I thought flowed along very nicely with a reminder of the long winters we use to have, when directors didn't have to worry if they filmed snow on one day it would be gone the next day.
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fatcat wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:42 am
Brian F wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:47 am
With that first talk on the recovered body it could almost have been an episode of "Quincy ME".
Ah well Rediffusion had something for you there called The Hidden Truth same era but apparently no episodes exist.

A Pocket full of Bones I thought flowed along very nicely with a reminder of the long winters we use to have, when directors didn't have to worry if they filmed snow on one day it would be gone the next day.
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Always interesting to spot shows made at the same time with the same weather, the LWT "Tommy Cooper" series and episodes of "On The Buses" both feature plenty of fallen snow, as do episodes of "A Fine Romance" and the "Who" serial, "Time-Flight" from early 1982.
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Monday night's third episode of "No Hiding Place" was another entertaining one, another tough storyline, the cast included John Dearth.

Some more jumps in the print in a couple of places, but otherwise fine, some nicely done location filming on this one too.

Of the three, "Music For Murder" is still the best one for me.
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The jumps were at the start and just before an advert break. I would suspect damage when the collector was projecting (bad threading of the projector at the start snapping the film and cement splices which lose at least one frame).

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Brian F wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:23 am
The jumps were at the start and just before an advert break. I would suspect damage when the collector was projecting (bad threading of the projector at the start snapping the film and cement splices which lose at least one frame).
The second set of jumps were the worst, in the scene on location in the car, a few lost words there.

I presume there is some sort of check on the prints before they are transferred.
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Presumably the only prints in existence for those episodes, so should we expect too much ?

Probably some old boy ran them on his old projector and kept them in his loft for 50 odd years, he could have chucked them in the bin at any time and we would have never seen them.

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True enough, I suppose there is likely to be some damage from collectors prints for the reasons you mention.

I was re-reading a 1974 TV Times interview with Clive Francis ( related to "New Scotland Yard") he mentions being 11 years old and going off to bed because he thought the first episode of "Murder Bag" was over when 'End Of Part One' came up.

He also mentions that LWT were thinking of bringing his dad into "New Scotland Yard", in the odd episode as a high ranking officer, but weren't sure if it would be a good move to 'Bring back the character'.
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As there are no off air sound recordings the audio over jumps can't be fixed as with spliced Dr Who prints and the missing frames interpolated, unfortunately.

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You would think there would be some Audios around, right period.

Would be nice to know what scripts remain, and there must be a lot of photos from various episodes, there are one or two on-line, and some rehearsal shots from Getty Images.
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They have found another one!

Good ol' TPTV, the box set is getting bigger"
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Mark wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:00 am
They have found another one!

Good ol' TPTV, the box set is getting bigger"
Great! thanks to TP they are on the screen again, makes you wonder what the heck the BFI intends to do with the ones it has, which have been sitting on the shelves for 50+ years.

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Hopefully, a box set eventually!

Four episodes within a year, from two sources, there are obviously more A-R shows in private hands.
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Apparently, TPTV has just found another NINE! episodes.

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fatcat wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:46 pm
Apparently, TPTV has just found another NINE! episodes.
WOW!

Obviously, many programmes ended up with collectors after the Archive was broken up.

"No Hiding Place" is an obvious one to receive interest, as it's such a good show.
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The first of the newly announced episodes is being shown next Wednesday (7th) at 4.30pm, it's called "Death On The Doorstep", 1/1/63.

TPTV have shown a clip, and the quality of the print looks very good.
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Is the Hartnell Epp still missing?

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Unless it’s one of the “new” episodes that Talking Pictures has unearthed, then it’s still AWOL. Annoyingly, like Hartnell’s appearance in SOFTLY, SOFTLY, the episode immediately before it does survive.

However...

NO HIDING PLACE
221: THE GAME

by Anthony Marriot
directed by David Boisseau
produced by Michael Currier-Briggs
recorded: 28th Febraury 1967
transmission: 22nd March 1967

Raymond Francis - Chief Superintendent Lockheart
Sean Caffrey - Detective Sergeant Gregg
William Hartnell - Impey
George A Cooper - Det. Inspector Newton
Geoffrey Reed - Mr. Gross
Heather Canning - Mrs. Gross
Marne Maitland - Bahra
Roshan Seth - Kuldip Mahal
Salmaan Peer - Ranjit
Bernadette Milne - Vera
Robert Hunter - Latham
Duncan Livingstone - Sgt. Roberts


Passing Mr Gross, the local driving instrctor, and his wife, a pair of Indian immigrants, Ranjit and Kuldip, enter The Volunteer pub for a drink, before heading off to a party to clebrate Ranjot's first anniversary in "the Mother country". Ranjit isn't in the mood for celebrating though, muttering about "people who have made so much money from me - who have kept me poor". Enter Mr. Impey, and despite his mood, Ranjit buys him a drink. Impey tells the pair to watch how much they drink, and Ranjit storms out his cousin following.

Before leaving himself, Impey tells the landlord, Latham, "All right, as long as you know how to treat 'em, of course. Fine soldiers." Latham has obviously heard this all before though.

Outside their basement flat, Kuldip stumbles over the body of Ranjit, knifed in the back. Impey comes across them: "Better leave this to me, lad".

At the local police station, Det. Insp. Newton tells Sgt. Roberts that the Yard has been called in to investigate Ranjit Mahal's murder. It's assumed some notority as a racial attack. Lockheart and Gregg enter, and want to make a start by looking over the flat.

At the flat, Impey is sitting with Kuldip, who worries that the police think he murdered his cousin. Impey tries to reassure Kuldip. Lockheart and Gregg arrive, and Impey introduces himself as caretaker of the flats. R.S.M. Impey, Ex-Indian Army in fact. He makes it quite clear that he found Kuldip kneeling by Ranjit's body.

Lockheart questions Kuldip, while Impey reamins as well - he cuts in to say he'd heard the cousins quarrelling earlier in the evening. Outside, Newton is telling Gregg that Kuldip's coat was covered in blood, but that no weapon was found, although the police have taken away an Indian kife that was found in the basement flat for examination.

About to leave, Impey explains to Lockheart that a Mr. Bahra owns the house and runs most things for the local Indian community. He also states that his movements the previous night were to The Volunteer, then another pub, and then the discovery of the body. Seemingly satisfied, Lockheart leaves.

Impey returns to Kuldip, who confides:

"Ranjit was drinking - he was unhappy - the money he is having to pay back for coming over here. He was angry - saying he was no coward - he will tell about it all - the game, the money... The man who is behind all these things... This maybe I should be telling Superintendent Lockheart. All these bad things that are happening in this town Mr Impey."

IMPEY: You want to be careful lad. Very careful. Or you may end up having a knife stuck in you.

END OF ACT ONE

Back at the police station Lockheart tells Gregg to check on Impey's movements. Newton comes in with the path report: Ranjit was killed with a single-edged, long-bladed knife. Common thing in these parts apparently.

NEWTON: Yes. A lot of the twelve thousand Indians we've got would have one.

LOCKHEART: Twelve thousand? I was told about nine.

NEWTON: More like twelve, sir. We reckon there are at least three thousand of them here illegally. It's "The Game".

LOCKHEART: "The Game"?

NEWTON: Fancy word for it, sir. Bringing these people in, on cooked-up employment vouchers and passports.

Ranjit had no official papers, though Kuldip's are in order - Lockheart goes off to question Mr. Bahra at his office at the Empire Cinema. There he is introduced to Mr. Gross, whose wife is in conversation with Bahra in his office. After she has left, Lockheart finds out about Bahra's extensive business interests in the area: as well as the cinema, he runs an import-export company, owns a few houses...

...and runs a travel agency. He offers to go through his records to see if the dead man had used it. Mr. Impey enters, and is taken aback to find Lockheart there. He's brought the rents that he collects for Bahra. Asking to take a look at the ledger, Lockheart takes it and exits. Impey tells Bahra that Ranjit was behind with his rent, though Kuldip's payments were all in order.

At The Volunteer, Latham is grumbling to Gregg about the influx of immigrants to the area. Gregg checks on Impey's movemnets, and the landlord drops a hint that Impey's army record could do with looking into.

At the police station Newton informs Lockheart that Kuldip's knife is clean, and that the blood on his coat is consistent with his story. Even so, Kuldip is brought in for further questioning. Lockheart asks him that if Ranjit worked hard, why was he behind in his rent and had no papers. Newton gets angry, and Kuldip gets upset. As Lockheart sends him home Gregg comes in with the news that fifteen years previously Impey was accused of stabbing an Indian private under his command to death. The only witness was another Indian, and it was Impey's word against his. He also has information of "The Game":

GREGGG: It seems, sir, that fare money and documents can be provided for our Commonwealth friends. Then, when they arrive here, they find themselves repaying a fifty percent interest.

LOCHEART: Fifty per cent?

NEWTON: That is the whisper sir.

GREGG: No-one complains, because their papers aren't in order.

LOCKHEART: And that makes them frightened of the police.

GREGG: Exactly sir. Extortion by easy numbers.

Bahra telephones for Lockheart: he has the information that Ranjit did come to the UK using Bahra's travel agency. Gregg is questioning Impey:

GREGG: Answer my question. You killed a man.

IMPEY: Permission to put it my way!

GREGG: You killed a man with a knife!

IMPEY: No, Sergeant. You've got it the wrong way. I defended myself. I was completely cleared.

GREGG: Only your word against an Indian soldier's.

IMPEY: He was a lying little...

GREGG: Go on! What else do you do besides keep this house in order?

IMPEY: I don't know what you mean?

GREGG: What do you know about "The Game"

IMPEY: Nothing... I mean, what game?

GREGG: You know damn well hundreds of immigrants are brought into this town illegally.

IMPEY: That's nothing to do with me.

GREGG: You're in an ideal position to extract money from these people. A bit added on to the rent each week no questions?

IMPEY: This is an unwarranted slur on my reputation. Over twenty years of exemplary service I had, Sergeant.

GREGG: Apart from one incident with a knife.

IMPEY: You're going too far now. lad.

Later, Lockheart talks to the Gross' about Bahra. He's done very well for himself, considering he's only been in the country seven or eight years.

In Bahra's office, Impey is complaing to Bahra that "he isn't going to take the rap.”

At the police station, Lockheart and Gregg try to calculate how much Bahra is bringing in:

LOCKHEART: A small calculation. Take five hundred illegal immigrants owing, say, two hundred pounds each.

GREGG: At fifty per cent interest.

LOCKHEART: Profit - fifty thousand a year.

GREGG: Quite a game.

LOCKHEART: Enough to kill for?

In a street nearby, Impey is laying dead.

END OF ACT TWO

Later, at the police station, it transpires that Impey's wound is identical to the one that killed Ranjit. The police theorise that Impey was going to come clean to them.

In his office, Bahra and Mrs. Gross are getting worried.

Lockheart is questioning Kuldip again. Kuldip admits his cousin was an illegal immigrant, and claims that Impey was a good man...

KULDIP: My cousin was paying lot of money to somebody. Then he refuses to pay more. And then...

LOCKHEART: Don't you know who it was?

KULDIP: Once he says to me one name. I have never told anyone, not even Mr. Impey. I cannot believe it.

LOCKHEART: What name?

KULDIP: Bahra, sir.

Lockheart thanks him for his help, saying that he's helping hundreds of his fellow countrymen. Kuldip replies that Ranjit remains dead.

Mr. Gross barges into Bahra's drawing room. Bahra has had enough, and wants out.

Looking further into Bahra's affairs, Lockheart and Gregg realise that the Grosses seem to be his business partners. They visit Bahra at home, where he admits the truth. He is just a front man, while Mr. Gross pulls all the strings - and committed the two murders. As the police escort Bahra to the station Mrs. Gross arrives: Kuldip is with her husband, and he's looking for Bahra.

Gross fires Kuldip up, playing along with Kuldip's idea that Bahra killed his cousin. Gross offers to take him to see Bahra at the cinema. While there, Gross sees policemen, realises this particular game is up and makes a break for it. However, after a scuffle, Newton and Gregg arrest him.

Later...

NEWTON: Looks like "the Game" is over here.

GREGG: Trouble is, sir, there must be other towns where "The Game" has only just started.

LOCKHEART: Perhaps they'll take a lesson from what's happened here.

GREGG: I wish I had your faith in human nature.

LOCKHEART: You will when your our age, won't he Fred? About all we have left.

NEWTON SMILES.

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Thanks for that, very interesting.

There's a mention in KAL, that Duncan Livingstone as Sgt Roberts, replaced Ray Smith, who was taken ill.

Do you know if there are many scripts existing?...KAL also mentions another script that turned up on ebay, "A Letter For Helga", and I can recall an "Orlando" script being sold ( from the last run).
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The BFI holds a lot of the AR/R paperwork.

For example...

http://collections-search.bfi.org.uk/we ... /110014130


It’s a great pity it didn’t take more of the actual programmes!

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I hadn't realised that they'd started putting the catalogue of all those boxes of paperwork online. How useful. Looks like they're maybe 2/3 of the way through.

Many happy days were spent going through those boxes when they were still at the ITC Library. Almost 20 years ago now. If only we'd had more time.
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Yes, that very good, will have a closer look at that, very useful indeed.

Good comment about not keeping the programmes as well, too true!.
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The print of "Death On The Doorstep" was very good.

Eric Lander dried at one point and was prompted off screen and Ivor Dean gave a wonderfully camp performance.

Nice to see Kevin Stoney and a brief scene with Joy Stewart.

For me, "Music For Murder" is the best one of those screened by TPTV, so far, though.
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Ivor Dean was brilliant didn't recognise him till much later and I thought Det.Baxter was hesitating over the perhaps gory state of the murder scene, until that shout from somewhere LOL.
Nice lively print and sound even had the break bumpers although perhaps TP mistimed the first one if it was there.

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Yes, it did break suddenly during that scene, so hopefully the end of it is still there.

"Inquest On An Idol" (24/7/62) is actually on at 8am ( Sunday 11th) odd time.
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I remembered at 1am this morning so got up and set the timer!

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